POSSIBLE FAMILY OF SAMUEL SILVEY

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Updated Feb 2007

POSSIBLE FAMILY OF SAMUEL SILVEY, SR. of Roane County, TN

This one is really difficult to even wildly speculate upon. He most surely had sons named John and William. At first I thought he would be father of Capt. Samuel Jr., but now believe that man is son of William Sr., and there is the possibility Samuel Sr. had a son named Samuel that did not linger in Roane (see below).

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If Samuel Silvey is a part of the Prince Edward Co. VA family that we strongly suspect, then he must be the man who married Mary “Polly” GIBBONS 21 Apr 1793 in Prince Edward Co. VA, sur. Peter Gibbons, daughter of JOHN GIBBONS. Likely she died Bef. 1819. He married (2) Sarah “Sally” COOK 11 Apr 1819 in Roane Co. TN, Wm. Selbe sec. She was born abt. 1785 in NC. (Other researchers say an older Charles Selbe/Silvey was father of William, Samuel, and others.

1810 Prince Edward Co. VA census

John Selbe               3201-2101
Charles Selbe          10201-02011
Samuel Selbe           2201-2001

Note young kids in older Charles household!!

This Samuel had 4 sons born between 1793 and 1810, and two daughters born between 1805 and 1810. (Later census records should indicate a birth in VA, when we can track these kids down.)

Prince Edward Co. VA
In 1813, PETER GIBBONS and his wife JANE [ Boatwright?] sold some land to SAMUEL SELBE in PE VA on Fallen/Falling Creek. I believe that Peter is probably the brother of Samuel's wife (see marriage notes ) as he also was surety for their wedding, the father being dead. However, no relationship is mentioned. In 1815 Samuel sells the exact same piece of land. No further entries of Samuel Selbe in deed book and he is not in Virginia in 1820.

We might suspect that Samuel and his wife started a move to TN. Or, it is possible his wife died along about this time, because indications are he married again in 11 Apr 1819 Roane to Sarah Cook, with William Selbe as his Security.

Census: 1830 Roane 021/000/001-102/100/1 [60-70]

Samuel has 3 sons still at home and four daughters, presumably, and a wife younger than he. I believe this indicates a second wife. Who the children are is purely guesswork, based on marriage records. No estate records have been found. But by 1830 he surely had some married children—at least his William and his John.

Census: 1840 Roane 000/100/001-001/000/01 [60-700

One son and one daughter at home. The son must be Anderson Silvey, and the female MAY be Nancy Silvey.

Census: 1850 Roane, household #1483
SAMUEL SILVEY 85 (1765) VA
Sarah 65 (1785) NC [must be second wife?]

Anderson Silvey is next door

Alexis Scholtz found this un-indexed record, which establishes a date of death for Samuel Senior by: Monday, Aug. 4, 1856

"On motion of Sally Silvey, widow and relict of Samuel Silvey Senr deceased by (her/per? otter/atter?), it is ordered that Jacob G Carmichael Thomas Gollaher and BB Bradley three freeholders of Roane County after being sworn for that purpose...to lay off one year's support to said Sally Silvey widow as aforesaid out of the personal affects of said decedents estate..."

1 SAMUEL SILVEY, SR. b: Abt. 1765 in VA d: Bef. August 1856 in Roane Co TN
+First Mrs. Silvey – probably MARY GIBBONS d: Bef. 1819

Proposed children:

2. WILLIAM SILVEY was born Abt. 1794 in VA, and died Aft. 1860 in MO. He married MARTHA "PATSY" SILVEY 18 Dec 1817 in Roane Co. TN, daughter of William Silvey, Sr. and Frances Davis. She was born abt. 1800 in TN.

The best guess is that this is the son of Samuel Sr. and Polly Gibbons, their first child born soon after their marriage. Martha would have to be his first cousin, daughter of William Sr. This means that Samuel and family had arrived in Roane County, TN prior to December 1817. If they are the same couple who moved to Rhea County, TN, and then to Morgan Co. MO, then the 1850 census shows him born VA, and her born TN.

Census and other records:

1830 Rhea Co. TN Census
SILVEY, Wm. - 101/001-111/011 (2 sons bef 1830)

Son1   1815-1820
Son2   1825-1830

Dau1   1815-1820
Dau2   1820-1825
Dau3   1825-1830

Female - 1800-1810??? (Sister perhaps, but why?)
William and wife, 1790-1800

Rhea Co. 1838 ------- Listed in a school district census for Rhea Co. a household of
seven children over 6 years of age but under 16 years of age [ 5th school district ]

1840 Rhea Census:
William Sylva 121/100/1-002/12 (3 more sons b 1830-1840)

Son1   1820-1825   Samuel 1818
Son2   1825-1830   Joseph   1820 m. Martina
Son3   1825-1830   James 19 May 1836 m Mary Sidebottom
Son4   1825-1830   William Rial 1837 ??????
Son5   1835-1840   John 1840

Dau1   1818-1820
Dau2   1810-1820
Dau3   1820-1825   Frances b abt 1825
Dau4   1825-1830
Dau5   1825-1830
William     1790-1800

There does not seem to be a wife in 1840. This is troubling because if he is in 1850 MO, there is a wife, Martha, about his same age. Did he marry again?

IF, this is same couple, here is 1850 census

1850 Morgan Co. MO
Family #47 Dwelling #47 MO
Silvy, William age 55 Farmer Virginia
Martha age 50 Tennessee
Francis 25 TN. female [1825]
James 12 TN
John 10 TN

living not far from William age 55 Va., not far from Martin and Ryal.

Joseph, Silvy 30 TN
Martina 22 ILL
Sally Ann 6 MO
Mary Jane 4 MO
Elizabeth 3 MO

and right under him

Silvy Samuel 28 TN
Emeline 22
Susan 2 Mo

PERHAPS WIDOW EMELINE IS LIVING WITH IN-LAWS? AGES NOT EXACTLY A FIT THOUGH.

1860 Missouri Census: Buffalo Twp, Morgan County, June
William SILBE, 64, b. VA, farmer
James, 24, b TN; Mary, 21, b. OH;
Fanny S., 40, b. TN;
W. J. JAMISON, m, 11, b. MO;
Emeline SELBE, 36, b TN;
Martha A., 11, b. MO;
Susana, 8, b. MO;
Cynthia, 6, b. MO;
Frances, f, 3, b. MO

Children of WILLIAM SILVEY and MARTHA SILVEY are:

i. SAMUEL⁴ SILVEY, b. Abt. 1818, Roane Co TN; d. Bef. 1860, MO; m. EMELINE SHADRICK.

ii. DAUOF WM SILVEY, b. Bet. 1818 - 1820, TN.

iii. JOSEPH SILVEY, b. Abt. 1820, Roane or Rhea Co TN; m. MARTINA; b. IL.

Notes for JOSEPH SILVEY:

http://www.rootsweb.com/~momorgan/1860census/dwellings/33.html

iv. FRANCES SILVEY, b. Abt. 1825, TN.

v. DAU2OFWM SILVEY, b. Bet. 1825 - 1830, TN.

vi. MARY JANE SILVEY, b. 26 Oct 1831, TN; d. 23 Oct 1892, Morgan Co, MO, Locust Cem.;
m. JESSE WEBB; b. 11 Apr 1828, TN; d. 09 Jan 1898, Morgan Co, MO.

Notes for JESSE WEBB:

http://www.rootsweb.com/~momorgan/1860census/dwellings/74.html

(next door to Ryal Silvey)

vii. JAMES B. "BRUSHY" SILVEY, b. 19 May 1836, TN; d. 27 Oct 1915, MO;
m. MARY SIDEBOTTOM, 04 Aug 1859, Morgan Co. MO.

viii. JOHN SILVEY, b. Abt. 1840, TN.

Although the mystery man, William Riley, born ca 1837, would fit into the stick figures, one cannot imagine why he would be left behind when the family moved to MO, or if he went and then returned, why he would do that. BUT, we would expect this couple to name a child William.

See more on John Silvey

2 JOHN SILVEY b: 10 Sep 1798 in VA d: 16 Feb 1882 in Roane Co. TN, Scott-Cabbage Cem.
+Barbara Cook b: Abt. 1804 in NC d: 16 Nov 1883 in Roane Co., TN, Cabbage Cem. m: 26 Feb 1822 in Roane Co. TN, bond Wm. Selbe

Census: 1830 Roane 200/001/0-010/01
Census: 1840 Roane 012/000/1-310/101

1850 Roane - #1240
JOHN SILVEY 52 (1798) VA
Barbary (Cook) 45 (1805) NC
Wesley 23 (1827) TN
James 20 (1830)
Peter 18 (1832)
Sarah A. 15 (1835)
Denira (f) 14 (1836)
Polly 12 (1838)
Serilda 10 (1840

Nothing known about Barbara Cook's parents. SUSPECT she is related to Sarah "Sally" Cook who married Samuel Silvey.

Roane Estate Records, 1880-1889

John Silvey (1882) - A years support set apart to Barbary Silvey, the widow of John Silvey deceased. There were 6 heirs - Westley Silvey, Admr., Nancy Howard, Sarah A. Silvey, J. M. Silvey, Mary Scarbro, Surellda J. Currier.

Barbary Silvey (1883) Settlement - "for distributive between 6 heirs" - Westly Silvey, admr.
Mary Scarbrough, James Silvey, S. A. Silvey, Surrelda Currier, Nancy A. Howard.

I really think this woman belongs to William Sr. instead of Samuel, but show her her just in case??? They are listed right beside the above John in 1830 Roane.

2 SUSAN SILVEY b: Bet. 1800 - 1810
+Joseph Shadrick b: Abt. 1809 in TN m: 21 Aug 1827 in Roane Co., TN, sec. Alex Dugger

Census: 1830 Roane 000/01-100/01 They are in 1850 Missouri

2. SAMUEL SILVEY possibly born ca 1805 m Jane Tippett in 25 Feb 1822 Roane. This couple disappears from Roane records, but it fits nicely with Samuel Senior having a son named Samuel.

An Alsy Tippett m Adam Gardenhire, b abt 1792. Adam would be uncle to the Matthew Gardenhire, b abt 1799 who m. Nancy Elizabeth Silvey, ca 1799, 02 Jul 1826 Roane County. That couple was in 1830 census, but moved to Morgan Co. Illinois by 1850, according to this web site:

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=:1661038&id=I0921

Some researchers say Andrew Gardenhire, b ca 1815, m. Mahala Butler. The Gardenhire, Tippett and Butler families need more research. I think Nancy Elizabeth was daughter of William Sr.

2 SARAH "SALLY" SILVEY b: Abt. 1810 d: Bef. 1860
+John Jackson Hickey, Sr. b: Abt. 1812 in TN d: Bef. 1860 m: 26 Jul 1832 in Rhea Co. TN Father: Preston Hickey Mother: Elizabeth Barnett

This couple is puzzling. The 1850 Roane census shows her as age 40, born VA. I need some more daughters for Samuel Sr. so am placing her here until we get more clues. If date and place of birth is correct, she has to belong to Sam Sr. She COULD be the older female living with William and Martha in 1830.

Descendant: Frances Howard Hickey Rosthi55@aol.com

1850 Census Roane#1683
John H. Hickey 38 TN
Sarah 40 VA
James 17
Isaac 15
John J. 13
Nancy 11
Carter 9
Sarah 7
Henry 5

2 NANCY SILVEY b: Abt. 1813 in TN d: Bef. 1860
+George Ollis b: 01 Feb 1802 in NC m: 07 Mar 1843 in Roane Co. TN
Father: Boston Ollis (Rev. War soldier) Mother: Barbara

George Ollis m Betsy Russell, 11 May 1830

Census: 1840 Roane, George Ollis 000/001-12

1850 Roane #1480
George Ollis 44 NC
Nancy [Silvey] 37
Sarah 15
Riley 13 (looks like Riley but in 1860 he has a Polly, so think it is same girl)
Barbary 19

In 1840, George had 3 girls. It would appear the daughters shown would be his by first wife, and since we hope he wouldn’t name two daughters the same names, the two young girls must be grandchildren. Looks like Nancy was deceased before 1860 and probably did not have any children.

1860 Roane 14th District, 24 August #2038-1889
George Ollis 52 NC
Barbary 30
Polly 27
Sarah 24
Sarah E. 2
Betsy J. 1

Next door to Samuel Silvey 69 and Jane 69

2 THOMAS SILVEY, b 1815-1820? in TN

This is the direct ancestor of Pat McD. I am not sure of his date of birth, so he could be son of either wife. I think he was born prior to 1819, so have him with Samuel's first wife. But I am not at all confident he is a son of Samuel Sr.

1850 Roane Co. Census
Thomas Silvey 33 [1817]
Elizabeth 24 [1826]
Mary E. 3 [1847]
Nancy G 7 [1843]
William Thomas 2 [ 1848]

Descendants of Thomas Silvey

1 Thomas Silvey b: Abt. 1815 in TN d: 19 Mar 1862 in Barbersville, KY - CW (measels)
+Margaret Elizabeth Edwards b: May 1820 in TN d: 16 May 1905 in Roane Co. TN m: Dec 1842 in Morgan Co. TN, Joshua Bibly JP

2 Nancy Green Silvey b: 1843 d: 1883 in Roane Co TN, Riggs Cem.
+William Monroe Roberts b: 27 Aug 1834 in Roane Co. TN d: 18 Mar 1910 in Roane Co. TN, Riggs Cem. m: 06 Jun 1865 in Roane Co. TN
Father: Robert Samuel Roberts Mother: Margaret Gardner (Private in Capt. L. M. Wester's Company G)

2 Mary E. Silvey b: 1847

2 William Thomas Silvey b: 1848 d: 20 Feb 1916 in Roane Co TN
+Mary Walker b: 25 Jan 1859 in Roane Co. TN d: 03 May 1919 in Roane Co. TN m: 30 Dec 1875 in Roane Co. TN

2 Samuel H. Silvey b: 23 Dec 1850 in TN d: 19 Nov 1889 in Roane Co. TN, Bowers Geasland Cem.
+Sarahfine Adkisson b: 22 Feb 1854 in Roane Co TN d: 1946 m: 23 Nov 1876 in Roane Co. TN
Father: Wilkerson Percy Adkisson Mother: Martha R. Green Divorce Filed: 1879

2 Ivy Silvey b: 20 Feb 1856 in TN d: 09 Jan 1894 in Roane Co. TN, Bowers-Geasland Cem.

2 Joseph Silvey b: 18 May 1859
+Matilda "Tressie" Adkisson b: Abt. 1860 m: 12 Feb 1882 in Roane Co. TN
Father: Wilkerson Percy Adkisson Mother: Martha R. Green

Elizabeth Silvey is depicted in the 1900 Roane Census, living near sons, Joseph and William Thomas. She is a widow, has had 6 children, two living.

*2nd Wife of Samuel Silvey, Sr.:
+Sarah Sally Cook b: Abt. 1785 in NC m: 11 Apr 1819 in Roane Co. TN, Wm. Selbe sec.

No proof, but it looks like this marriage would be this Sam. No info on Sarah's family

2 MARY SILVEY b: Abt. 1820
+Thomas Ives m: 08 Oct 1835 in Roane Co. TN, Thomas Silvey bond

1850 Census Rhea County, TN p. 604, hh # 565

IVES, Thomas     36 TN
", Polly              30 TN
", Elizabeth A.     15
", Henry D.         12
", James M.        10
", Luisa J.           8
", Julia A.            6
", Thomas N.      5
", Zachary T.      2
", George W.       8/12

1860 Census, Crawford MO

Thomas is now 45, and Mary A. is just 33. One might think she would have aged a lot since she was so busy having kids.
Henry 21, L. J. (f.) 16, J. A.(f) 14, Thos. W. 13, James M. 19, Z. T. 12, George 10, Robert 9, Sarah 8, Martha 6, Riley 5 (m), Eveline 10/12

Thomas Ives is surely related to the Rev. War soldier, Thomas Ives, but we don’t have any proof of that, or even any hints.

Sadly for me, in 1840 Samuel Silvey, Sr. has just one son in his household. It has to be either Thomas or Anderson, because both were unmarried in 1840. But, court records indicate that Anderson Silvey had a brother, John Silvey, so I’m giving Anderson the spot. I am also speculating that Joyce Howard’s father was Asa Howard, and that she is related to other Howards who m. Silveys, but I cannot prove it.

2 ANDERSON SILVEY b: Abt. 1822 in TN
+Joyce Howard b: Abt. 1822 in TN m: 22 Feb 1842 in Roane Co. TN, Nathan Davis bond

1850 Roane , hh # 1484
SILVY, Anderson 28 TN
", Joise . 27 TN
", Sarah 7
", Mary 5
", Sarah 3???
", Elizabeth 8/12

1860 Roane, page 287, 15th Dist,l 26 Aug, P. O. Welcker's Mills
2157-1007
Silvey, Anderson 34 farming (no land) 100 personal estate
Silvey, Joicy 35 TN
Sarah 18 idiotic
Mary 15 idiotic
Sam'l 13
Elizabeth A. 11
Aca 0. 8 (male)
Wm. J. 5 Idiotic
Jocefina 2

Now this one is another puzzle! In 1860, the census-taker makes the note that three of their children are "Idiot", and writes on the side of the page "parents are first cousins."!!!

I can't figure out how that would be. Some food for thought:

In 1840 Roane, page 23, Samuel Silvey (Sr) is listed beside Asa Howard. Asa has some older daughters in his household. Anderson and Joyce name a son Oliver Aca/Asa. First son is named Samuel, but they also have a William [of course!]

In 1850 Roane, Asa Howard has in his household, Christopher Howard 17. I believe this could be the man who married Elizabeth Nelson, daughter of John E. Nelson, and sister to the two other Nelson women who married Silvey men. I've tried to find details of the Howard family, but no luck yet.

A JOSEPH SILVEY married Priscilla Butler in 1839 Roane. I don't find them in the 1840 census, He must fit in one of these families, and it looks like we have an extra slot in Sam's family. Guess he moved on somewhere else with new bride. But we need another son for the 1810 Prince Edward Census, so Joe gets my vote, even though I don’t know his age.

Can't figure out where Priscilla fits with old Butler family, if at all.

Alexis found this:

U.S. Federal Census Mortality Schedules, 1850-1880

Name: Priscilla Silvey Gender: Female

Marital Status: Married
Place of Birth: Tennessee
Estimated birth year: abt 1820
Age: 40
Month of Death: Jan
Cause of Death: Lung Fever
Place of Death: (City, County, State)
Township 15, Scott, Illinois
Census Year: 1860

So for the 4 sons born before 1810 census, I am speculating they were William, John and Samuel (m.Tippett). For the fourth one to fit, Joseph would have to be born before 1810 but marry later than usual. OR, there may be another son that is totally lost in the shuffle.

I don’t have enough daughters either. In 1810 there are two. But in 1830, there are four young females.